These Dweebs never question the science unless its THEIR crusading issue. How many sharks in the sea? Enviros want feds to reconsider endangered status

kevinhearnMONTEREY — Environmental groups are appealing a federal finding that West Coast great white sharks aren’t teetering on the brink of extinction. With concerns that the numbers of white sharks was dangerously low, last year Monterey-based Oceana and the San Francisco-based Center for Biological Diversity asked the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to look into special protections for the species. Read [email protected]   22:59

  • C.P.T.L.

    A clear sign of a weak argument is the belittling of one’s opposition by name-calling.

    “Dweebs” and Enviros.”

    Maybe they are in a manner of speaking dweebs; so what?

    They are not Enviros, they are environmentalists.

    Another clear sign of a weak argument is pejorative characterizations of the opposing side’s motives.

    It’s their “crusading issue” and they “never question the science unless its THEIR crusading issue.”

    Are they crusading or are they merely acting to right what they perceive to be a wrong?

    Never? Not ever? Really?

    A further sign of a weak argument is categorical absolutes.

    “Never question.”

    Really? Never ever? The entirety of the Center for Biological Diversity has staked its all on a question White Sharks? They care about nothing else?

    The Center for Biological Diversity never admits it is wrong when it is proved to be wrong? Really? Scientists: people who base their assertions on provable empirical data are just throwing out false statements based on their feelings?

    Respect your opposition: they are not enemies like combatants in wartime; they are fellow Americans doing, as you are, what they believe to be right.

    If you have a point to make, prove it.

    If your opposition is playing dirty or is false, prove it.

    Don’t get me wrong here; I support fishermen: And if fishermen are correct about this I am glad of it.

    It does no service to fishermen to pitch their argument into a nasty rant: it hurts their cause.

    • – Moderator

      Thanks for writing in

      “clear sign of a weak argument is pejorative characterizations”

      What argument?

      As far as my choice of using the word “Dweeb”, it certainly wasn’t to belittle anyone. It’s an impossibility on the internet where people can pretty much say what they want, and I think “dweeb” was being kind. The choice locker is full of more interesting names, however, this one seems to have caught your attention!
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      Everything you laid out in your comment could be constructed using the short synopsis to describe the article, and with that said, you’d notice the Headline of the article, “How many sharks in the sea? Enviros want feds to reconsider endangered status”, had you read the article!

      Or maybe it was the offensive acronym “enviro”.
      I do use that periodically, because I tire of writing the full word at times, because I write it so often.

      So yes, I’m guilty of using “dweeb”, but not of using “enviro”. This time.

      You bring up perception, as you assume they use perception discriminately. Crusading for any cause is the CBD, and, CLF, and NRDC, and so on.

      “A further sign of a weak argument is categorical absolutes.”

      “Never question.”

      “Really? Never ever? The entirety of the Center for Biological Diversity has staked its all on a question White Sharks? They care about nothing else?”

      Ever seen a disclaimer that they were wrong? I never have, and they are far from right, most of the time. I’m sure you’d disagree.

      http://fisherynation.com/?s=center+for+biological+diversity

      The Center for Biological Diversity is not a scientific organization, but a legal organization.

      The enviros have been crusading against fishermen for decades using phraseology like “greedy”, and other untrue notions based on nothing other than emotional rhetoric, and oil funded science.

      I have no respect for oil funded corporate lawyers using the word “environmental as a rue, as in EDF.

      Gang Green is a dangerous, overwhelming power. That power lock must be broken – Big Green’s well-financed hold on fisheries policy.
      http://washingtonexaminer.com/big-greens-well-financed-hold-on-fisheries-policy-must-be-broken/article/2540662

      http://fisherynation.com/archives/category/engo